From forbes@zeke.Colorado.EDU Mon Apr 28 09:27 MDT 1997 Received: from cedar.hao.ucar.edu (cedar [128.117.16.90]) by jabba.hao.ucar.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA14354; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 09:27:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ncar.UCAR.EDU (ncar.ucar.edu [128.117.64.4]) by cedar.hao.ucar.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13406; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 09:27:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from zeke.Colorado.EDU by ncar.ucar.EDU (NCAR 12/5/96/ NCAR Central Post Office 03/11/93) id JAA21948; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 09:27:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from forbes@localhost) by zeke.Colorado.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5/Unixops/Hesiod/(SDM)) id JAA16920; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 09:26:34 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 09:26:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Jeffrey Forbes Message-Id: <199704281526.JAA16920@zeke.Colorado.EDU> To: foster@ncar.ucar.edu, hagan@ncar.ucar.edu, lu@ncar.ucar.edu, richmond@ncar.ucar.edu, roble@ncar.ucar.edu Subject: figures for Phase III document Cc: forbes@zeke.Colorado.EDU Content-Type: text Content-Length: 3400 Status: RO Ray, Maura, Art, Ben, and Gang ... I am in the final stages of putting together the CEDAR Phase III document. I am not satisfied with the current representation of the TIME GCM. I am seeking your help to offer possible alternatives, since in one sense I am trying to portray in the document the activities and contributions of the HAO TISO group. Presently, I have attempted to include a TIME-GCM result on the first page of the "coupling to lower altitudes" section. I have a full column available on a 3-column page. I tried to use some latitude vs. longitude plots of temperature at 120 km where the TIME GCM was linked with CCM3 -- a sequence of 3 plots on consecutive days to illustrate day-to-day variability induced by the lower atmosphere. These plots originated as color figures which Ben provided me. I had them shot onto slides, and then scanned onto a photo CD. This is a black & white page in the document (actually, we can handle tones of blue on the "BW" pages also). I am not satisfied with what resulted due in part to the loss of resolution (especially with the print) resulting from the above procedure to get the figure into a digital form that my graphics design person can read in Photoshop or Adobe Illustrator , and also perhaps that I tried to make a mono color (shades of blue) figure from a color figure. First of all, what I really need are Postscript files for the figures. This allows us to modify fonts, etc., and optimize the figure. I am seeking possible suggestions from you for the following: 1. I have 1 full column available on the first page of the "coupling to lower altitudes" section. It would be nice to have a figure or sequence of figures here that depicted the TIME-GCM's current or potential future contribution to this science area -- perhaps related to coupling to the CCM3. 2. I have a full color page that I have been very indecisive about filling. It is the last page in the document facing the inside back cover. The inside back cover is filled with a table of information on all CEDAR post-doc awardees. This full color page could potentially be a full-page color layout of a spectrum of TIME-GCM results --- maybe 3-4 figures with fairly brief captions, and a short paragraph somewhere on the page describing briefly the TIME-GCM , its current and potential capabilities and contributions to CEDAR , blah, blah blah. Maybe the 3-4 figures could depict samples of the contributions of the TIME GCM to each of the 4 science initiatives -- coupling to lower altitudes polar aeronomy long-term variations solar -terrestrial interactions ???????????? I am hoping that you might be able to pull some existing figures out of your files and quickly suggest something neat. I will send in a copy of the existing draft of the Phase III document tomorrow with Maura so you can get a better sense of how things look. Sorry to barge in at you at the last moment, but I only recently realized the difficulty with the figures that I have, and I only just now had the brainstorm on the full-page TIME GCM layout. You will see that this would be a nice complementary page to page 4 of the current draft, which is a full color page showing observational results pertaining to each of the 4 science initiatives. This could be a model for a TIME GCM layout. Thanks in advance for your ideas and help ! Jeff From forbes@zeke.Colorado.EDU Mon Apr 28 14:37 MDT 1997 Received: from cedar.hao.ucar.edu (cedar [128.117.16.90]) by jabba.hao.ucar.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA17531; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:37:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ncar.UCAR.EDU (ncar.ucar.edu [128.117.64.4]) by cedar.hao.ucar.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13987; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:37:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from zeke.Colorado.EDU by ncar.ucar.EDU (NCAR 12/5/96/ NCAR Central Post Office 03/11/93) id OAA13580; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:37:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from forbes@localhost) by zeke.Colorado.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5/Unixops/Hesiod/(SDM)) id OAA19474; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:36:57 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:36:57 -0600 (MDT) From: Jeffrey Forbes Message-Id: <199704282036.OAA19474@zeke.Colorado.EDU> To: foster@ncar.ucar.edu Cc: hagan@ncar.ucar.edu, richmond@ncar.ucar.edu, roble@ncar.ucar.edu Subject: Phase III figures Content-Type: text Content-Length: 613 Status: RO Ben, I have the postscript files you sent me. I can put the 3 color ones together into one figure, I am pretty sure that we can change the full color to "blue tones" within Adobe Illustrator. That problem is solved for now, and it is all that is really needed of you guys. However, if you (all) would like to put together 4 or more color figures that might fit in with the four science initiative themes, then I would be willing to work with you to design a full-page color spread on the TIME-GCM. However, I have a fall-back option for this page if you don't want to bother. Thanks again for your help. Jeff From forbes@zeke.Colorado.EDU Tue Apr 29 08:19 MDT 1997 Received: from cedar.hao.ucar.edu (cedar [128.117.16.90]) by jabba.hao.ucar.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA22209 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 08:19:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ncar.UCAR.EDU (ncar.ucar.edu [128.117.64.4]) by cedar.hao.ucar.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA15022 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 08:19:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from zeke.Colorado.EDU by ncar.ucar.EDU (NCAR 12/5/96/ NCAR Central Post Office 03/11/93) id IAA01103; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 08:19:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from forbes@localhost) by zeke.Colorado.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5/Unixops/Hesiod/(SDM)) id IAA20015 for foster@ncar.ucar.edu; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 08:18:57 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 08:18:57 -0600 (MDT) From: Jeffrey Forbes Message-Id: <199704291418.IAA20015@zeke.Colorado.EDU> To: foster@ncar.ucar.edu Subject: plots Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1871 Status: RO Ben, the color plots for days 114, 115, 116 that I copied from' your account are apparently not suitable for use in our document (see message below from my graphics art person). Can you generate NW equivalents ? Jeff >From PhilTobias@aol.com Mon Apr 28 23:09 MDT 1997 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com (emout04.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.95]) by zeke.Colorado.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5/Unixops/Hesiod/(SDM)) with ESMTP id XAA19916 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:09:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id BAA00318 for forbes@zeke.colorado.edu; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 01:10:25 -0400 (EDT) From: PhilTobias@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 01:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970429011024_2016738130@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: forbes@zeke.colorado.edu Subject: T114-116 files are color? Content-Type: text Content-Length: 954 Status: R Jeff: Downloaded the three T114.ps -T116.ps files, and opened one in Adobe Illustrator. This is a color file, and the designated page 6 is a b/w page. As QuarkXPress will automatically generate color printing plates when any color images are on a page, these files are not suitable, unless you can furnish them to me in b/w. Checking the "wave" file on page 35, I see it also has color values assigned (even though just b/w displays on screen, the tonal variations apparently were specified as RGB color values). Again, this is unfortunately not suitable as is. And there's no easy way to convert these manually, as I can do with photos in Photoshop. After checking the Adobe forum on AOL tonight, there was some mention of an AI plug-in filter that automatically converts from color to grayscale. But it's part of a $100.00 set, and nothing I've worked with before. Probably simpler to find replacement artwork, or some other format. ...pt From forbes@zeke.Colorado.EDU Tue Apr 29 14:44 MDT 1997 Received: from zeke.Colorado.EDU (forbes@zeke.Colorado.EDU [128.138.158.26]) by jabba.hao.ucar.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA02626 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 14:44:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from forbes@localhost) by zeke.Colorado.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5/Unixops/Hesiod/(SDM)) id OAA20530 for foster@jabba.hao.ucar.edu; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 14:43:52 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 14:43:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Jeffrey Forbes Message-Id: <199704292043.OAA20530@zeke.Colorado.EDU> To: foster@jabba.hao.ucar.edu Subject: Re: plots Content-Type: text Content-Length: 324 Ben, that was a typo -- i meant BW, actually GREY SCALE. Probably best to have the lined contours also on the grey-scale but not necessary to label the contours since we have a grey scale. The 3 figures I mant were at 00 UT on days 114, 115, 116 depicting TN near 120 km, y-axis is latitude and x-axis is longitude. Jeff From forbes@zeke.Colorado.EDU Wed Apr 30 09:47 MDT 1997 Received: from cedar.hao.ucar.edu (cedar [128.117.16.90]) by jabba.hao.ucar.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA08258 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:47:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ncar.UCAR.EDU (ncar.ucar.edu [128.117.64.4]) by cedar.hao.ucar.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18433 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:47:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from zeke.Colorado.EDU by ncar.ucar.EDU (NCAR 12/5/96/ NCAR Central Post Office 03/11/93) id JAA23136; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:47:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from forbes@localhost) by zeke.Colorado.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5/Unixops/Hesiod/(SDM)) id JAA21481 for foster@ncar.ucar.edu; Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:46:13 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:46:13 -0600 (MDT) From: Jeffrey Forbes Message-Id: <199704301546.JAA21481@zeke.Colorado.EDU> To: foster@ncar.ucar.edu Subject: grey-scale figures Content-Type: text Content-Length: 3027 Status: RO Ben, the following message refers to my graphics art person's (hereafter known as "Phil") latest attempt to get one of your files (renamed by me to be T116.ps) to convert to grey scale. Do you create these figures with IDL ? I understand there is an option in IDL to disable color. Could you give this a try to create grey-scale versions ? I will look at the cgm and ps files you pointed me to today. Jeff >From PhilTobias@aol.com Tue Apr 29 18:42 MDT 1997 Received: from emout16.mail.aol.com (emout16.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.42]) by zeke.Colorado.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5/Unixops/Hesiod/(SDM)) with ESMTP id SAA21302 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 18:42:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA06184 for forbes@zeke.colorado.edu; Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:42:13 -0400 (EDT) From: PhilTobias@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970429204145_-1633942602@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: forbes@zeke.colorado.edu Subject: Re: T114-116 files are color? Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1914 Jeff: In a message dated 4/29/97 8:46:50 AM, you wrote: >OK, I'll get you some new files to replace those. I guess >you publication industry folk ought to get up to speed with the >software/hardware to handle today's file types in use by most of >the engineering and science discipline (chuckle). jmf Thanks, I'll look forward to the replacement files, in b/w or grayscale. As an option, if you could get copies of any of those on slides, they could then be digitized to PhotoCD > Photoshop > Color to Grayscale conversion > Tiff > QuarkXPress. Not as good as EPS vector art for these, but... BTW, I was able to borrow an evaluation copy of Draw Tools, the AI plug-in that allows grayscale conversions. I played with it some at work, and it converted standard EPS files as slick as can be, maintaining a nice range of tones. But then I installed it at home and tried it on your files. It had no effect on T116.ps; the background graph remained color. Also ran the plug-in on "wave," but when I went to re-save the file, AI still reported that there was RGB color data present that would not work properly in EPS format. That page prints funny in XPress. When set to print color separations for a test, it outputs a page for the black ink, another for the blue -- fine so far -- but then it outputs three blank pages, one each apparently for Red, Green, Blue, the normal monitor colors. That obviously could be a problem at the printers. Yes, it's too bad science/engineering files aren't yet in widespread enough demand for print work, to make translators in demand. There's a number of WWW and other formats that are essentially for on-screen or file transfer use, that just aren't used for magazines and books. Oh, well. Got your corrections under my door. Will start work on them as soon as I can -- midweek is my busiest. Where are we at now, in terms of deadlines? That's today's update...pt